Line | Winner |
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Color | Red/Gold/Charcoal |
Coverstock | VTC-P18 Pearl Reactive |
Core | Altered Hotshot Core |
RG | 2.540 |
Differential | 0.054 |
Intermediate Diff | N/A |
Factory finish | 1500-Grit Polished |
Weights | 12-16 |
Cleared USBC | Yes |
15 Reviews
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Rotogripskitt159
Here today to talk about the roto grip winner.The hp2 line adds a great ball with lots of backend for a great value.First look i had with this ball was really good i was very impressed how this ball was so clean threw the front part of the lane and tons a pop down lane sometimes a little to much off the spot.I really like the wrecker,the winner reminds me of it just cleaner.I like to use this ball later in the day little to skiddy for the fresh,i did add surface to another winner i drilled put 2000 on it and was alot better for the fresh.I can see this ball in alot of bowlers bags as great bang for the buck.
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RyanDPatterson30
55x4.5x40 Honor Score alert. This ball is everything you need in a league ball. I have always loved this motion in balls at the HP2 line. The Winner was not as angular as I thought so I added 2000 to the cover to help shape it when there isn't a definite hook spot. This was a homerun ball for me and I'm excited to compare this to the Winner Solid.
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caseyccg
Orientation: Right Handed Rev Rate: 375 RPM Speed: 16-17 MPH PAP: 4 5/8 straight across Location: Enterprise Park Lanes, Springfield MO Pattern: High Volume THS Layout: 50, 6, 40 The Winner is a great pearl high RG ball from Roto Grip. I LOVED my Wreck-Em and was looking for a replacement and the Winner is the perfect replacement. It's SUPER clean in the front and goes SIDEWAYS on the back. It's the perfect ball for drier conditions. I could see using it on hooking house patterns right out the gate or switching to it later in a tournament to open up the lane. And it's got unbelievable performance for the price!
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bowlstorm3
The Winner has the VTC-P18 pearl coverstock designed for more traction while still maintaining downlane motion. The cover is paired with an Altered Hotshot core. I went with a 45 x 5 x 40 pin up layout on my Winner. Although a little touchy on the fresh with the polished out of box finish, I really like the Winner when the oil migrates from the front part of the lane and stronger balls start losing energy. For testing purposes, I also hit it with a 2000 pad and found it to be a completely different ball. Suddenly, it could handle a lot more volume with a lot more versatility. I am looking forward to some upcoming tournaments to put it to the test. Chris Freeland Storm Amateur Staff www.stormbowling.com www.rotogrip.com Bowler Info: PAP 4 5/16 x 1/4 up, Speed 16-17, Rev Rate 400
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ITZPS
The Winner is both an anomaly and completely expected. For one, it outperforms the HP2 line by a staggering amount, but this is also a normal thing for Roto to do with that line. It nearly has the highest symmetric core differential on the market right now, and is higher than anything in Roto's HP3 or HP4 lines. However, it has a medium RG and the combination contributes to making it a ball with great length and a strong backend move. I think it's a bit TOO easy down the lane, but it has looked very good for all Tamer's testers, so in addition to a full and detailed review of mine here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlyYRM6a2M I would also check Tamer Bowling's video review out as well.
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CooperMathewson
Roto Grip Winner ***Centrum Core*** ***1500-grit Polished VTC-P18 Coverstock*** Set up with something to get me downlane (70x5x35) on a medium oil house shot...old wood lanes with lots of friction outside and on the backend. The plan for the Winner was to be a step down from my Strom Match Up Black Pearl. I was looking for something that can get me through game 2-3 in league when the shot gets tricky on the wood surface. It was a touch more backend that I need but it's definitely something that will work. Gets down lane with easy and has a nice pop in the back. I was surprised with the power it had, considering it is an HP2 line ball. Actually so strong in the backend for me that I will most likely adjust surface a bit to see what it does. Maybe something closer to the out of box surface of the Match Up Black Pearl. Overall, great ball...especially when you factor in the price point. #RotoGrip #OwnIt
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rodbowler75
I drilled the Roto Grip looking for that lower end pearl to fill a need in my bag. This ball does not disappoint! This ball is a great step up from my Hustle ink and Hustle Hyb when i need something clearer down lane and to change the angle. The layout of my Winner was 55 x 5.5 x 35 this is one of my favorite layouts right now. I had to adjust the surface of the ball and hit it with 3,000 just to smooth out the motion with my loft. If you're looking for a lower end ball to add to your bag this is a great choice for this price point.
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StoRoto2013
The newest addition to the RotoGrip HP2 line is the Winner. The Winner is super clean through the front part of the lane and has a booming backend. This dynamic motion is from the combination of the VTC-P18 Pearl coverstock and the Altered Hotshot Core. I was thinking about throwing the Winner on some short Sport patterns but decided to toss it on what everyone bowls on THS. I have a low rev rate around 300, ball speed around 15 mph, right handed and my axis point is 5 5/8 over and ¾ up. The layout I used was pin over the fingers with the CG kicked out about 2 inches with no hole. I believe the Dual Angle is 45 X 5.5 X 50. The Winner had generous length, mid lane control (even for a Pearl) and a very aggressive backend motion. The motion is similar to the All Out Show Off but with more forgiveness and more overall performance. The Winner allowed me to play up or to the dry with ease and this was something I did not fore see happening. The over under that I usually have with a pearl bowling ball was not there. I was surprised at how deep I could continue to more left and the Winner would get around the corner. The name fits what this ball is... WINNER! The Winner is going to be in my bowling bag for sure. The Winner is very much like the Hustle INK more bang for your buck.
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ct9pinking (In reply to: PJ Haggerty )
Winner Really the perfect name! The VTC-P18 Pearl Reactive Cover stock is combined with an altered Hotshot Core. I think the Winner is similar to the Hustle Ink in the front part of the lane, much stronger on the back part of the lane, but not as much as the SoniQ. This ball is perfect for house shot's that don't have a lot of volume and aren't very long in length. The Winner is an awesome symmetrical ball and a great addition to the HP2 line. If you don't have one in your arsenal, it's not complete. Bowler Info: PAP 4 9/16 x 1 3/16 up; Ball Speed 18mph; Rev Rate 620 RPM #rotogrip #squadrg Keith DeMaine Storm/Roto Grip Amateur Staff Connecticut State & County HOF www.stormbowling.com www.rotogrip.com
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cmattingly
First of all the I used a new layout for this ball. I waited a bit before I drilled it, gathered information from other staffers, then went a different direction than normal for me. I shortened the Pin to PAP distance by a half inch. My go to pin down layout is 60x5x70. I went with 60x4.5x70. It was stronger than I anticipated! I was expecting something to use once the lanes broke down a bit, but that wasn't the case. I was able to use this ball on the fresh with a fair amount of success. Once I hit the surface with 3000 It rolled even better. It was very similar to the pin down Marvel Pearl which I had in my bag and I was able to use it longer than I would the Marvel Pearl typically. This is another home run in the HP2 line! Most definitely out performs the price tag!
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stormroto
Brian B.Verified Reviewer 09/04/18 Roto Grip Review by Brian Watson RG Winner review by Brian Watson The new Roto Grip Winner is a great addition and a missing motion in the current line. I drilled mine 5 x 4 x 4 pin down. I hit it with a 4000 abralon pad to take a little shine off as it is very clean through the fronts. Ive been able to use the Winner on pretty much any lane condition so far. I drier house shot it really shines! I bowl on a couple sport patterns also with success, but it needs to have the surface altered to around 2000 grit to get the best reaction. But it has the great RG reaction down lane with it rolling or (tumbling) off of the breakpoint. Very controllable and predictable. Brian Watson PAP - 3 5/8 up 1 1/4 Speed - 16-17 Tilt - 17 RPM - 400
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PJ Haggerty
Roto Grip Winner Ball Review by PJ Haggerty The newest addition to the Roto Grip lineup is the Winner. With great looking colors, a nice price point, and stellar performance, the Winner is an easy choice to add to your bag. For players with rev rate, they will be standing left and throwing it right because of the shape it creates. For the straighter players, it will be a ball that will have a quicker response time and be a great compliment to their high performance balls when they start to burn up a bit. I've drilled one Winner so far and really like it. It's mapped out as 5 x 4 and I put 3000 on it just to smooth up the surface a bit. As expected, when the pattern blends out and some oil gets down lane, the Winner is a perfect ball to go to. The cover creates length but also a quicker response time when it sees friction. I see this as a flashy ball to finish blocks strong with! At an attractive price point, great looking colors, and stellar performance, the Winner is a perfect addition to bags for the winter season. Go drill one! #SquadRG
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bigmikecraig
My stats: 16.5 mph ball speed, 285-315 rev rate, up the back type release with a high track. To summarize, medium speed - forward roll type of release with moderate revs. I put the WINNER at 60 x 5 x 30. This layout ended up with close to 1.5 oz of side weight which now doesn't require a weight hole as of August 1, 2018. I have thrown the WINNER on mostly house and our state Masters pattern. The WINNER is skid/flippy. I get easy push in the front with little effort and big move at the break point. I will probably have to either put a weight hole in to tame it some or smooth the cover up to about 3000 to get it to burn some of that push in the front of the lane. Compared to the ALL OUT SHOW OFF which this ball basically has replaced, I see it more push and more whippy down the lane. I changed my cover on the AOSO and got it to read well enough for me on higher friction house shots. I see the WINNER being a good ball down option if it is drilled weak enough to lay off in the back. The WINNER should be a great option for more friction. Don't be afraid to hit it with 3000 to smooth it out off the back end.
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fazzone22
I drilled my Roto Grip Winner 5.5 x 5 x 3. Compared to my Storm Match Up Pearl, the Winner gave me a similar motion with more over-all performance. The Match Up Pearl was my go-to ball when I started to see friction either in the front part of the lanes or just overall lane play. The Winner will be a bit more versatile because of the slightly stronger cover and core. While throwing the Winner, I noticed that on almost every shot, it continued to drive through the pocket and never deflected off the pocket. If you're a tournament bowler or just searching for a good overall league option, the Roto Grip WINNER is the clear choice.
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StormAndrew
Ball Review: I absolutely love this ball as it instantaneously fills a gap in my arsenal and something I been looking for ever since the Hectic got discontinued. The best description and comparison I can give is that this ball is right in between a Timeless and a Hectic. It's not as powerful as the Timeless although it is stronger than the Hectic. The layout of this ball is 85 x 4.5 x 75. This ball will be a go to when the lanes transition and get into burn territory, somewhere after games 5/6. I had the opportunity to test this ball on pretty dry conditions which was the perfect environment for the Winner. I liked how I was able to get inside and slow hook it in the middle part of the lane; something I used to love to do with my Hectic. I didn't have to try and force the ball into more of a skid phase. I was able to keep everything at a normal pace and my hand slow. I maintained the pocket very well throughout the demo. The ball, also, hits very well as you can see in the video. For those looking for something like a Hectic and stronger than the HP1 line for when the lanes are dry I believe you'll really enjoy the Winner. Video: https://youtu.be/_u3byaCVGxY