Line | Forza |
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Color | Yellow Pearl |
Coverstock | Helix™ Pearl Reactive |
Core | Torx |
RG | 2.50 |
Differential | .051 |
Intermediate Diff | n/a |
Factory finish | 5000 Grit LSP |
Weights | 12-16 lbs |
Cleared USBC | Yes |
18 Reviews
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bobdabowler
Push the limit with the Forza™ Redline. Engineered for medium oil, it is the ultimate machine for benchmark performance. It provides more length than the solid Forza™, yet it still offers more control than the Octane™. Being a benchmark ball, competitive bowlers will certainly use the Forza™ Redline to gauge the lane pattern. On a typical house shot, because the ball is so versatile, it will match up well with a wide array of league bowlers. I personally loved my Original Forza, so I was super excited about this release. I drilled my MOTIV Forza Redline with my favorite drill (55 X 4 1/2 X 40) in which puts the pin just slightly over the bridge right in the middle of the fingers. Which is the same drill as my Original Forza. I have been doing things a little bit different with our new releases. Instead of writing my reviews before the release, I decided to give it some time so I can get a get true feel for the balls strengths and weaknesses. I love how much cleaner through the fronts the Forza Redline gets compared to the Original Forza. The Redline is a great compliment to the Original Forza when the the lanes force me to play a little further left and the orginal Forzais to forward in the backend. The Forza Redline could easily become anyones benchmark ball just for the simple fact that it is so great on medium lane conditions. The Redline out of the bag as a benchmark will immediately help you read the lanes. I can play multiple angles with the Redline but what I like most about it is the pin carry. I feel like I always say this about Motiv bowling balls but they just seem to hit so hard and keep the pins low for maximum carry. Of course ball choice is not the only factor in pin carry but I feel like when I am matched up correctly, I can strike all night. Another winner from Motiv!!! It's time to Get MOTIVated!!! Bobby Middleton Jr Motiv Staff Member www.motivbowling.com
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Jsellers31Motiv
FORZA REDLINE The latest ball from Motiv is the New Forza Redline. I drilled the New Forza Redline just like i drill all my symmetrical balls (65 x 4 1/2 x 35). The redline is a great benchmark ball. It provides more length than the solid Forza, yet is still offers more control than the octane. The Redline features the same medium-rg, medium-diff Torx core that's in the Original Forxa. The Redline however uses the all new agility Helix PearlReactive coverstock. It will provide length and retain energy on medium oil. This ball is a must have in your bag MOTIV STAFFER JONATHAN SELLERS
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Wya_Rya
The MOTIV Forza Redline... Now this has been a piece I have been waiting for! I must admit first hand that the original Forza was not my cup of tea. Although it was not a poor piece by any means, but with the type of house shot I bowl on and it being second shift league play, the success was very limited. I would be able to line myself up to reach the pocket without difficulty, but by the time it would reach the pocket, the energy would be burnt up. The 7 pin and I became close friends for a time while I trying to tweak the Forza. Enter the Redline, let just say that the 7 Pin and I began going our separate ways... with me tossing it back into the pit with its other friends. The Redline, although building off and continuing the Forza line, offers a more conducive ball reaction for my style and the house pattern I face on a weekly basis. It continues to provide the controllable reaction that was favored in the original Forza but provides a bit more length lending itself to become much more versatile on the lanes. With the added length, the Redline now retains energy to provide stronger down-lane motion that allows for better pin action on the deck to remove the 7 PIN out of the equation. In the recent changes made to my local bowling center’s house pattern, normally a smoother with little length has always been my bread and butter to maximize score, this is no longer the case. To better assist those who have lower ball speeds and need to lanes to hold up and maintain that “Up 10” line, for someone like me, getting the ball retain energy down lane has become a necessity. Within a week of having my Redline being drilled, I was able to end my honor score drought by posting an 805 series. Benchmark piece is the perfect word to be associated to the Redline. The Redline for me actually provides a very good compliment to the Primal Remix if shelling down is the way to go when the Remix is just too strong for the lanes that night. By switching to the Redline, I’ll be able to actually maintain a similar line to the pocket with control and predictability. If you are trying to reduce the number of bowling balls you are carrying into the bowling center and in need of a benchmark piece, the Forza Redline will not disappoint. The one thing that bowling has taught up and the success of the pros, versatility leads to longevity and consistency. Ryan Wyandt MOTIV Staff Member West Lawn, PA rwyandt869@gmail.com Follow me on Twitter: @rwyandt869
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drock300
LANE CONDITION Length: 42 Volume: Medium Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc): THS COMMENTS Likes: Ease through the heads, strong move off the friction Dislikes: Slightly allergic to carry down and/or heavy volume patterns I was looking forward to this ball not as a benchmark, but as an option when I need to go around a pattern. So far, this ball has fit the bill!! I drilled mine as a 60 X 4 1/2 X 30 to accentuate what I was needing in my arsenal. When I need to get into the middle part of the lane and go around the pattern, this ball is my first choice. It gets to the spot easily and responds strong off the friction. In my opinion, it is slower response to the friction in comparison to the Tag but quicker than the original Forza. This ball will make it into the car every trip I make this season.
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seniorMOTIVguy
The Forza Redline is the latest pearl reactive ball released by Motiv. The Redline utilizes the same Torx core found in the original Forza but is wrapped in a new Helix Pearl Reactive cover stock providing a little faster response to friction as compared to the Forza. The Redline is a versatile ball for various lane conditions as it provides the same smooth transition as the Forza but with a little more length and a little more backend reaction. When the Forza starts to pick up too soon, I can switch to the Redline and continue playing the same area. The Redline is outstanding on wet/dry conditions or broken down patterns when you need some length but also when you need control in the backend. I drilled my Redline with the pin down below my middle finger, cg kicked out a little with a hole in the P2 position. This layout still gives me length and smoother than expected response in the backend. I can throw the Redline on fresh conditions or late in a block during regionals. It's nice to have a pearl ball that gives you length but doesn't turn left in the back. This ball is a must for any tournament bowler or if you struggle with today's wet/dry league conditions.
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mohrevs
My overall review of the Redline would be, this is the first Pearl ball out of my bag! I feel as though where some of the other releases in the line have been to much "hurry and get to the spot so I can Hockey stick Motion" this ball is not that. The Redline is truly a ball that will allow you to know what is out there, if you either need to ball up and see more hook. Or the opposite, ball down and find something a bit cleaner through out the lane. I am truly looking forward to utilizing this ball through out this season and will be one of first balls out of the bag for any Tournament C Mohr Motiv Staff Alexandria
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dcbowler800
I tested my Forza Redline against the original Forza. It is such an easy 1-2 combination with each other. When the original Forza is a little too strong in the front part of the lane, the Redline gets through with ease. The continuation with the Redline is unreal. I quickly realized how many different parts of the lane I could play with using the Redline. The Forza Redline brought me back to when I first started throwing MOTIV. The original Thrash was the first MOTIV ball I owned and that went with me everywhere. There isn’t anything not to like about the Redline. The cover is great both shiny and sanded. You can play multiple parts of the lane with it. I still haven’t found anything that this ball can’t do. Darryl Carreon MOTIV Staff / PBA Member
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jrob857
Review: The Forza Redline is the latest release from MOTIV Bowling. The Redline is a medium oil monster of a ball that brings together the Torx core that was first used on the original Forza and the new Helix Pearl Coverstock. With these two together, the Forza Redline bring more length then what we saw from the original Forza and more control down lane than from the Octane. The Forza Redline will become your next benchmark ball because the Redline is very versatile and you can play any part of the lane and all walks of bowlers will love the new Forza Redline. INNER CORE Torx COVERSTOCK Helix Pearl Reactive FINISH 5000 Grit LSP Comments: First time I through the Forza I was a little hesitant. Reason being was I loved the original Forza but for me it was more of a situational ball that I barely through it. Though I love the shape, it was something I have never seen out or a bowling ball, I really used it on high friction, short oil conditions. But after the first few shots I was in love. The Redline gave me what I was missing from the original Forza. I provided me a little more length and little more retainable energy when transition forced me inside. The Forza Redline gave me the same shape as the Forza but just that little extra at the end put it over the top for me. High Rev players who felt the same as me about the Forza are going to love the Redline while lower rev players will love the Redline for the same reason I stated above. I recommend the Forza Redline to all styles of bowling. MOTIV and Realbowlerstape.com Staffer, John Robertson www.motivbowling.com
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MotivSteve300
The Forza Red Line is made for medium oil conditForzaions. The Torx weight block is what really makes this ball awesome. It easily revs up in the middle part of the lane, allowing this gem to be a great benchmark ball. The pearl cover allows the Red Line more motion on the back part of the lane then the solid. This is a great ball for just about any house shot as it will not quit once it finds the friction. On sport patterns, I can easily get the Red Line through the breakdown in the fronts. However, the core allows the ball to still read the patter and get the proper skid, hook, roll critical for proper pin carry. This is a must for your bag! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwXRPV1LuUY Steve Haas Motiv regional staff member Steve@BKbowling.com
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toverbey
Layout: 65 x 5 x 35 Looking for your new benchmark ball? Look no further than the Motiv Forza Redline. By combining the controllable Torx core (2.50RG, .051Diff), first found in the Forza, with the brand new Helix Pearl Reactive coverstock (finshed at 5000 Grit LSP) a ball motion has been created that gives excellent read on the lanes without sacrificing hitting power. I drilled mine the same as the benchmark that I was currently throwing, the Sigma Sting, to test this ball’s mettle. Upon throwing them side by side I believe that the Redline is a great successor for this spot in the ball chart. The Redline clears the heads easily but once in the midlane you can really see the Torx going to work. I see the ball start to read without hooking too soon thereby giving me an accurate look at how the lane will play. When it comes time to transition from roll to hook the ball makes a strong but very controllable motion to the pocket where it drives through as though it lost no energy at all. Though a traditional pearl the ball is not unpredictably flippy which makes it very forgiving on the fresh and transition alike. While both the Sting and Redline have similar characteristics for me, the Redline hooks a bit sooner therefore giving me several more boards of overall motion. Whenever the lanes get tough and I need to control the pocket this little ball of sunshine will be just what I need. Trent Overbey In the Zone Pro Shop Motiv Staff www.motivbowling.com
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The SuperHitMan
Rev Rate:420 Axis Tilt:20 Axis Rotation: 45 Ball Speed:17 PAP Measurements: 4 1/8 Description: The Forza Redline is the second coming of the Forza itself, underneath its Helix Pearl Reactive shell is the Torx core which was also used in the original. This ball was created for the purpose of providing more length than the original Forza, and also to provide you with more control than the Octane. I have personally dubbed this ball Yellow Glory. Out of box surface: 5000 Grit LSS Layout: 4 x 4 1/2 (no weight hole) Ball Reaction: The Redline is smoother up front more than the original Forza, the difference being the cover it is wrapped in. The ball motion is simple smooth and is versatile enough to handle any desired condition minus the extremes, a phenomenal benchmark ball. Key uses for the Redline are those situations when you feel your Primal Remix is reading the friction to early, or your Jackal is too big for the desired condition. Yellow glory fills this spot. Comparisons Forza: The glaring difference is the length between the two; the Redline is longer as the oob surface is 5000 glass. A glorious perk for the Redline is that what it does encountering friction; a moderate controlled motion whereas the original would give you that strong early move up front. Overall the Forza hooks more than the Redline, but the Redline has more length and backend built in to it. Octane: The Octane has more backend and has more angularity built into it, the stand out difference being the ball reaction as a whole. The Redline is control throughout the entire lane and doesn’t have a big backend presence like the Octane; but it does hook more than the Octane. The Octane is a little cleaner than the Redline and has a faster response time to the friction. Panic: The length between is roughly the same, however overall the Redline hooks more than the Panic. Because the Redline hooks more than the Panic it reads the friction earlier unlike the Panic, in terms of backend reaction that goes in favor of the Panic. Summary: I’m a fan of the original Forza because it was a medium ball that could function as a heavy oil ball for me, the solid mid lane roll and continuation is what I enjoyed. I am even bigger fan of the Redline because instead of going Forza-Tag I can go Forza-Redline, and in most cases I can go Redline-Tag. I get the same solid performance out of the Redline that I got out of the original Forza, and being bright yellow it is most eye-catching rolling down the lanes. The Redline has multiple functions except the extremes as I mentioned earlier, to me making it a phenomenal benchmark ball. The Redline is a ball that should be the first ball you throw in practice before actual battle, as it will inform you of what ball you should throw including the ball itself. Every bag has a benchmark ball inside it. I encourage you make the Redline yours. Your game will thank you for it. K.C.White II Motiv Staff Whybowl Staff
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cyafromfla
This ball is the newest introduction into the MOTIV line of bowling balls. The MOTIV Forza Redline features the Helix Pearl Reactive coverstock combined with the Torx core. It's clean through the front of the lane, makes a controllable move off the spot and has the backends you will need for down lane. And most important, it has the continuation that has come to be expected from MOTIV bowling balls. It will be a great fit in your bag on medium oil. A perfect benchmark ball. My Redline is laid out with the pin above and to the right of the ring finger, the cg under the ring finger and has no extra hole. This ball blends out the typical over/under reaction on a house pattern and still has the recovery needed when on more competitive patterns. I can see this ball as being the first out of my bag to help gauge what I am bowling on. The versatility of this ball will make it a must have in your bag. This ball is going to get A LOT of play for me on medium oil on a variety of different shape patterns. Craig Auerbach MOTIV Staff Member Florida
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MappaG
We all need a benchmark ball to throw when we’re developing a plan on how to attack the lanes. The Forza Redline fills that role beautifully. It fits right in the middle of my MOTIV arsenal in terms of total boards covered & hook shape. I’ve used it on a variety of conditions, and have found it to be very versatile. The original Forza is of my favorite balls – the Torx core works very well for my game. The Redline’s pearl cover gives me a bit more length and a bit more angular on the back end than the original Forza, with a similar amount of overall hook. Here is a link to the ball reaction video that I made. I compare the Redline to the original Forza, Graffiti Tag, Jackal, Primal Remix & Ascent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBOtHslKSTg If you’re getting a Redline, I’d suggest drilling it with your favorite tried and true layout, and let it be your guide. If you have never tried MOTIV before, this ball is a great place to start. Or if you’re just looking for a ball with a distinctive look, the Redline is it! It’s unique color and logos will turn heads, that’s for sure. I get tons of comments about it – it’s cool.
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rayner13
Description: The Forza Redline takes the Torx Core from the original Forza and adds the new Helix Pearl Coverstock. This bright yellow ball will stand out on your shelf and on the lanes. This benchmark ball has an RG of 2.50 and a diff of .051 for the 15lb version. Comments: This ball fits squarely in the center of Motiv’s ball guide for a reason. It’s a benchmark ball. It is designed to be used on a wide variety of conditions and will let you know if you need to go up or down the guide by it’s reaction. I chose my standard layout 70-5-50. This ball is clean through the front part of the lane, doesn’t over respond when it sees friction and has enough pop down lane to carry well. This will be the first ball out of my bag on most shots. Comparisons: The Forza Redline is cleaner then the original Forza, and is more angular down lane. The original Forza had slightly more hook but would often seem too slow on house patterns as the ball would run out of energy. The original Forza needs a pattern that has more oil to see it’s full potential. This is exactly where the Redline shines. I was also able to pair it up well with the Venom Panic. When the Redline was too strong, I switch to the Panic on the same line. The Panic goes about 4-5 feet longer with a similar shape off spot. Perfect 1-2 combo in your bag. Summary: Motiv continues to produce some of the strongest hitting balls on the market. The lineup offers a variety of ball motions for all types of players. The #Redline is a benchmark ball. It will show you whether or not you need to ball up or down based on how it reads the lane. A must have for just about everyone. Ball video: https://youtu.be/25gH-vq9Mz8 Matt Rayner Motiv Staff
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sportshot
Ball Specs: Motiv Forza Redline Helix Pearl Reactive 5000 Grit LSP Symmetric Core Layout 75 x 5 x 40 Bowler Specs: Right Hand. PAP 4-3/4 Over 1/2 Up Rev Rate 300. Tilt 20. Rotation 50. Speed off hand 18 Review: The Forza Redline combines a Helix Pearl Reactive cover with the Torx core. This combination creates a very versatile and hard hitting ball. The Redline goes longer than the original Forza while increasing backend, creating a heavy rolling Pearl ball with exceptional carry. The Forza Redline drives through the pocket keeping the pins low. The color and logo on the Redline look amazing, and bowlers are drawn to it on looks alone. I found the New Redline to be just under my original Forza in hook but above my Venom Shock. The Redline seems to be more angular than both. The Redline can very easily be the first ball out of the bag to gage lane reactions and oil volume. You may not need to switch off the Redline because it is so versatile but ball changes up or down are made easy from the Redlines benchmark status. Once I got lined up with the Forza Redline hitting the pocket was easy. If you view the video I moved 7 boards left with my feet 3 with my target after a few shots and with more side roll the ball was still incredible. I like the box surface and it cleans easily. I intend on drilling another Redline and glossing it higher for more length. The layouts I used were 75 x 5 x 40 which basically puts the Pin and CG on my Grip Line. This is not a layout I use often but it gives me a great idea of the performance that was built into this ball which is fantastic. We seem to have had a ton of Hype from customers with this ball and it is well deserved. I had a bunch of people asking me about it at a tournament I went to this weekend. The Redline is another Great Ball from a Great Company. Motiv continues to release top notch equipment that hits hard and scores! Summary: The Forza Redline is a great benchmark ball. The Redline is consistent and versatile. The Forza Redline hits hard and is predictable. The looks of the Redline are amazing. The core and cover match perfectly. Glenn Wendel PBA Member Motiv Staff Turbo Staff Video link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v-9rBhsd2J-L8&feature-youtu.be www.motivbowlng.com gwendel@comcast.net
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rickzakrajsek
Forza Redline Prepared to be WOWed…This light to medium oil ball in the Froza line is that and so much more. First time out on the 47’ PBA50 Scorpion patter I never would have dreamed this piece would make it out of my bag. But out it came and Strike it did! First 8 games tallied a +170 total good for 12th place – and a 10th place overall finish – And this ball is versatile – the following week it was PBA50 Chameleon and an 8 game total of +270…Amazing is an understatement as this ball is strong, angular but predictable. I drilled 2 one pin up and one pin down both with motion holes..what a great compliment they were to each other as they each made their own mark over the 8 game block. The pin up clean and strong on the back when I needed the angularity while the pin down provided the earlier roll with a bit slower turn which allowed me to tighten up my line as they broke down..This ball is a great benchmark ball but so much more! If you don’t have this piece in your bag your missing out! Come get Motiv-ated..The Forza Redline will not disappoint! Rick Zakrajsek Motiv Staff Ohio WWW.MOTIVBOWLING.COM
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addynyr
The Forza Redline is cleaner and more response then the original Forza. This ball is a great compliment to the original Forza when the Forza tends to read the lane too early or does not go through the pins strong enough. The Redline for me fits right in between my Vengeance and Panic. Even though my Redline is drilled pin down, it is very clean and creates a lot of angle through the pins for maximum pin carry. To me it rolls similar to my Revolt with my drilling 65 x 4.5 x 70 but gets down the lane much more. Adam Chase Motiv Staff
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MOTIVmags
Description: The Forza Redline uses the same Torx Core as the original Forza. The coverstock however, consists of the new Helix Pearl Coverstock. The Forza Redline also again uses the MOTIV Badge logo, which gives it great shelf appeal..not that a yellow ball needs anymore help! Reaction: This release is very simple...it's a benchmark ball and it’s designed to be used on all but extreme conditions. The Forza Redline is meant for many scenarios: 1) Light to light/medium oil balls are too weak, or 2) Heavy oil to medium/heavy oil balls are too strong, or 3) Angular balls are responding too fast to friction, or 4) Smooth balls are responding too slow to friction My first layout (60X5X35) is the cleaner and faster responding down lane of the two. The second layout (70X4.5X60) is one of my more favorite even layouts, though still plenty continuous. So far I like this layout a little better as it provides the ideal shape for a benchmark ball. Comparisons: The Forza Redline is very well complimented with other balls in production by MOTIV. To start, the Original Forza is earlier and smoother, but only barely stronger in overall hook potential. Next, the Octane is a little cleaner and provides a faster response to friction, but is weaker in terms of hook potential. Summary: Every ball that MOTIV currently produces surrounds this benchmark ball. Whether you're looking to enhance your current arsenal or start an arsenal from scratch this ball is a necessity. It's that ball you throw to start practice before competition, because it reads the lanes so well and dictates what ball you should be using. YouTube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksffDxFd9-Q Mike Magolan MOTIV Staff | Turbo Staff